Ήμουν στη beta του enhanced edition. Έχοντας εμπειρία από άλλες closed betas όπως του StarCraft 2 ή του Command and Conquer 4, όταν είδα το mail αποδοχής υπέθεσα ότι απλά θα μπω να παίξω μερικές ημέρες νωρίτερα χωρίς να έχω άμεση επαφή με τους devs.
Πόσο λάθος έκανα. Ακολούθησε mail με CDA που υπέγραψα ηλεκτρονικά και επεξήγηση για ένα ticket system μέσω του οποίου ενημερώνεις την Beamdog για τα bugs και ανεβάζεις τα προβληματικά save files.
Όταν τελείωσε, για επιβράβευση μας πρόσθεσαν στα credits, το οποίο ήταν πραγματικά υπέροχο. Είναι πολύ όμορφο να βλέπεις το όνομά σου σε ένα τίτλο που αγαπάς.
Είχε πολλά bugs, αλλά ήταν playable. Δεν είδα κάτι game breaking. Κυρίως αλληλουχίες ενεργειών που οδηγούσαν σε ένα φαινομενικά άσχετο bug, πχ enter a specific area > cast a specific spell > getting locked out of inventory. Δεν είμαι IT, αλλά υποθέτω ότι αυτά είναι συνηθισμένα. Αυτό που έκανε εντύπωση ήταν το UI. Το άλλαξαν πολλές φορές μέχρι να καταλήξουν σε μέγεθος και χρωματισμούς.
Ο βασικός τρόπος ήταν ένα site που λεγόταν Redmine. Μέσα έβλεπες κάθε reported bug, απαντούσαν σε κάθε ένα και σου ζητούσαν συνήθως να δοκιμάσεις κάτι και να τους πεις αν έγινε resolved ή όχι.
Κοίταξα μόλις τώρα τα mail μου (δε σβήνω σχεδόν τίποτα), βρήκα και κάτι απλοϊκές φόρμες.
Προς το τέλος, μας ήρθε ενα mail για να στείλουμε (ασύγχρονα) ερωτήσεις στον Chris Avelone.
Τέλος, υπήρχε και ενα ακόμη κανάλι επικοινωνίας, ένα private subforum της Beamdog. Απίστευτο, αλλά δεν το έχουν κατεβάσει ακόμη, έκανα copy paste το παρακάτω:
Make sure that you have no mods installed, and that you have not edited your save game. If you do, try to reproduce the issue with a new game on a clean installation. We can’t fix issues with mods, and it’s often hard to tell where a bug came from if it’s only being reported on a modified game. If you can reproduce the issue with no mods installed, move to Step 2.
(If it turns out the issue was caused by one or more of your mods, check out the Modding forum and see if the mod's author can help you identify the cause of the problem. Your issue may help a mod designer/maintainer make their mod better!)
Step 2: Reproduce the issue.
If it’s a gameplay issue, try to go through the same steps you took to make it happen. The simpler the steps are the better, but it’s important to be precise so that we can isolate the cause and fix the problem. Be sure to create a saved game just prior to the steps you took, so that we can retrace those steps exactly.
If the issue is related to graphics or text, take a screenshot. On Windows and Mac, pressing PrntScrn during play will generate a screenshot in your Documents\Planescape Torment – Enhanced Edition\ScrnShots folder; you don’t need any external programs to make it work.
Step 3: Report the issue
Bug reporting will be handled using Redmine. If you do not yet have an account, register there first! For those who tested with us before, we're using a drastically simplified approach - so no worries!
There are separate projects in Redmine for each game. You can find the project for the game you are testing by selecting it from the "Jump to a project..." drop down in the upper right corner of the page.
From there, you want to click on the "Issues" tab and look through or search to see if the issue has already been reported.
For each new issue, click on the "New Issue" tab, and fill in the following details:
In the Tracker: box, Select whether you think the issue is a Bug or a new Feature
In the Subject: box, A title that includes your platform in brackets and clearly states what is wrong.
Try to formulate the subject as a "should" or "should not" statement.
Example: [Windows] There should be no audio distortions while the movies play.
The following three items go in the Description Box:
A numbered list of exact steps that will reproduce the problem.
Anyone reading the list should be able to follow it without detailed knowledge of the quest or situation. There are two ways to do this:
1. Begin with starting a new game from the main menu.
2. Attach a zipped save and begin with "1. Load the attached save."
In either case, it is okay to include console commands to shorten the steps (see the example below).
A one-sentence statement (each) of the observed and expected behaviors.
As with the subject, try to use "should" or "should not" statements. If you don't know what the expected behavior is, write down the negation of the observed behavior.
Your hardware and any notes or additional media needed to understand or reproduce the issue.
Under Notes, include your hardware and anything else you want to add.
If you are reporting a visual problem, include a screenshot using jpg or png file format only.
You may also attach a video using mp4 file format only
If your game crashed, find the crash dump in Documents\Infinity Engine - Enhanced Edition\crash and attach it to your report as a .zip. Also include the savegame that generated the crash dump.
The zip file format is the only permitted file compression format for bug ticket attachments. Please do not use RAR, 7z, bz2 or any other compression format.
If the problem is a typo, edit baldur.lua to include SetPrivateProfileString('Program Options','Strref On','1'). This puts a number before each string in the game. Report the string reference number in your bug report.
Finally, in the Found In Version box, select the specific version you were testing.
Ήμουν στη beta του enhanced edition. Έχοντας εμπειρία από άλλες closed betas όπως του StarCraft 2 ή του Command and Conquer 4, όταν είδα το mail αποδοχής υπέθεσα ότι απλά θα μπω να παίξω μερικές ημέρες νωρίτερα χωρίς να έχω άμεση επαφή με τους devs.
Πόσο λάθος έκανα. Ακολούθησε mail με CDA που υπέγραψα ηλεκτρονικά και επεξήγηση για ένα ticket system μέσω του οποίου ενημερώνεις την Beamdog για τα bugs και ανεβάζεις τα προβληματικά save files.
Όταν τελείωσε, για επιβράβευση μας πρόσθεσαν στα credits, το οποίο ήταν πραγματικά υπέροχο. Είναι πολύ όμορφο να βλέπεις το όνομά σου σε ένα τίτλο που αγαπάς.
Έλα ρε! Πολύ όμορφο, πράγματι! 🤗 Από περιέργεια, σε τι κατάσταση ήταν το παιχνίδι στη beta του;
Είχε πολλά bugs, αλλά ήταν playable. Δεν είδα κάτι game breaking. Κυρίως αλληλουχίες ενεργειών που οδηγούσαν σε ένα φαινομενικά άσχετο bug, πχ enter a specific area > cast a specific spell > getting locked out of inventory. Δεν είμαι IT, αλλά υποθέτω ότι αυτά είναι συνηθισμένα. Αυτό που έκανε εντύπωση ήταν το UI. Το άλλαξαν πολλές φορές μέχρι να καταλήξουν σε μέγεθος και χρωματισμούς.
Ενδιαφέρον! Feedback πώς έδινες; Πέραν της φόρμας εννοώ. Discord; Forums; Γραπτά; Κάνατε κάποιο call/focus group;
(επαγγελματική περιέργεια...)
Ο βασικός τρόπος ήταν ένα site που λεγόταν Redmine. Μέσα έβλεπες κάθε reported bug, απαντούσαν σε κάθε ένα και σου ζητούσαν συνήθως να δοκιμάσεις κάτι και να τους πεις αν έγινε resolved ή όχι.
Κοίταξα μόλις τώρα τα mail μου (δε σβήνω σχεδόν τίποτα), βρήκα και κάτι απλοϊκές φόρμες.
Προς το τέλος, μας ήρθε ενα mail για να στείλουμε (ασύγχρονα) ερωτήσεις στον Chris Avelone.
Τέλος, υπήρχε και ενα ακόμη κανάλι επικοινωνίας, ένα private subforum της Beamdog. Απίστευτο, αλλά δεν το έχουν κατεβάσει ακόμη, έκανα copy paste το παρακάτω:
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November 2016 Flag
Step 1: Check for Mods
Make sure that you have no mods installed, and that you have not edited your save game. If you do, try to reproduce the issue with a new game on a clean installation. We can’t fix issues with mods, and it’s often hard to tell where a bug came from if it’s only being reported on a modified game. If you can reproduce the issue with no mods installed, move to Step 2.
(If it turns out the issue was caused by one or more of your mods, check out the Modding forum and see if the mod's author can help you identify the cause of the problem. Your issue may help a mod designer/maintainer make their mod better!)
Step 2: Reproduce the issue.
If it’s a gameplay issue, try to go through the same steps you took to make it happen. The simpler the steps are the better, but it’s important to be precise so that we can isolate the cause and fix the problem. Be sure to create a saved game just prior to the steps you took, so that we can retrace those steps exactly.
If the issue is related to graphics or text, take a screenshot. On Windows and Mac, pressing PrntScrn during play will generate a screenshot in your Documents\Planescape Torment – Enhanced Edition\ScrnShots folder; you don’t need any external programs to make it work.
Step 3: Report the issue
Bug reporting will be handled using Redmine. If you do not yet have an account, register there first! For those who tested with us before, we're using a drastically simplified approach - so no worries!
There are separate projects in Redmine for each game. You can find the project for the game you are testing by selecting it from the "Jump to a project..." drop down in the upper right corner of the page.
From there, you want to click on the "Issues" tab and look through or search to see if the issue has already been reported.
For each new issue, click on the "New Issue" tab, and fill in the following details:
In the Tracker: box, Select whether you think the issue is a Bug or a new Feature
In the Subject: box, A title that includes your platform in brackets and clearly states what is wrong.
Try to formulate the subject as a "should" or "should not" statement.
Example: [Windows] There should be no audio distortions while the movies play.
The following three items go in the Description Box:
A numbered list of exact steps that will reproduce the problem.
Anyone reading the list should be able to follow it without detailed knowledge of the quest or situation. There are two ways to do this:
1. Begin with starting a new game from the main menu.
2. Attach a zipped save and begin with "1. Load the attached save."
In either case, it is okay to include console commands to shorten the steps (see the example below).
A one-sentence statement (each) of the observed and expected behaviors.
As with the subject, try to use "should" or "should not" statements. If you don't know what the expected behavior is, write down the negation of the observed behavior.
Your hardware and any notes or additional media needed to understand or reproduce the issue.
Under Notes, include your hardware and anything else you want to add.
If you are reporting a visual problem, include a screenshot using jpg or png file format only.
You may also attach a video using mp4 file format only
If your game crashed, find the crash dump in Documents\Infinity Engine - Enhanced Edition\crash and attach it to your report as a .zip. Also include the savegame that generated the crash dump.
The zip file format is the only permitted file compression format for bug ticket attachments. Please do not use RAR, 7z, bz2 or any other compression format.
If the problem is a typo, edit baldur.lua to include SetPrivateProfileString('Program Options','Strref On','1'). This puts a number before each string in the game. Report the string reference number in your bug report.
Finally, in the Found In Version box, select the specific version you were testing.
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